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Tim Dini
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posted February 18, 2003 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Dini        Reply w/Quote
Bob,

Could you let us know why in the Dynamic Duo Archive the art credit was given to Bob Kane on some of the stories when it is common knowledge that Sheldon Moldoff did the art.

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silveragesuperfan
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posted February 18, 2003 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silveragesuperfan   Click Here to Email silveragesuperfan        Reply w/Quote
Since we haven't yet heard again from Bob Greenberger (perhaps the snowfall in the northeast?) I thought I would squeeze in another question.

If this has been covered on the boards, I missed it. When the Spirit archives have been completed, will they have included the following by any chance:

1. The 60's Tribune strip
2. The new origin story and two covers done for Harvey
3. The new one pagers and wrap-around covers done for the Kitchen Sink undergrounds
4. Quality comic cover reprints
5. The Warren covers (or new material added then)
6. The Kitchen Sink magazine and comic book covers
7. The Spirit Portfolio contents

This would truly "archive" the Spirit material completely, except for convention booklet illustrations. Or perhaps this could be a seperate book in itself?

Just wondering...

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gothcityfan
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posted February 18, 2003 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gothcityfan   Click Here to Email gothcityfan        Reply w/Quote
About the GL hardcover, Bob has said (1/24)that all hc's are released in softcover when they sell out in hc.

How do i know this? Shameless plug for http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum21/HTML/002218.html .

Hopefully, bob will not have to answer questions twice anymore. Theres an index of what dates certain topics were mentioned, a table of contents of bobs posts, and all of bob posts reposted without everyone elses posts. And its only two pages!!

If you inquire about something general (will a sc of a hc be released) and you dont want to go thru bob's 40 posts, you can try to go thru the table of contents for each section, a couple of lines listing what bob covers in that days post.

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Mister Ed
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posted February 18, 2003 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mister Ed        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gothcityfan:
About the GL hardcover, Bob has said (1/24)that all hc's are released in softcover when they sell out in hc.

Well, I guess I was wondering if they were going to have a release that was timed, rather than just waiting for it to sell out, since the contents are so important to the story of the ongoing monthly. Usually HCs don't contain stories that relate that directly and are the only source for info without which events in the monthly can be confusing.

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davesharon
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posted February 18, 2003 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davesharon   Click Here to Email davesharon        Reply w/Quote
I really enjoy trying to read every posting on every topic in the DC Message Board. It is really exhausting.

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monkey
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posted February 18, 2003 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkey   Click Here to Email monkey        Reply w/Quote
Bob,
When can we expect the next Y the Last Man, Fables, and Green Arrow (current series, post issue 10) tpbs?
If not definitive, you must at least have some idea of the release months.
Thanks!

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Scott Nichols
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posted February 19, 2003 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Nichols   Click Here to Email Scott Nichols        Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by silveragesuperfan:

When the Spirit archives have been completed, will they have included the following by any chance:

1. The 60's Tribune strip
-This was finally reprinted recently in one of the Twomorrows mags, maybe Alter Ego #2.
2. The new origin story and two covers done for Harvey
3. The new one pagers and wrap-around covers done for the Kitchen Sink undergrounds
4. Quality comic cover reprints

- Only 10 or 12 Quality covers were by Eisner. Just noting.
5. The Warren covers (or new material added then)
6. The Kitchen Sink magazine and comic book covers
7. The Spirit Portfolio contents
- The Portfolio and many covers were reprinted in the Spirit Treasury.

Also, let's not forget:
8. The Spirit Dailies!
9. The Spirit Tabloid (also reprinted in the Treasury)

I would understand if some of this material was not included. Wouldn't like it, but I'd understand. Please consider including all story material, i.e. Dailies, Tribune Story, Harvey & Underground stories.

It will never happen, but I would love to see all of the editorial material from Kitchen Sink collected and edited into a issue-by-issue commentary and history of the Spirit. It would be a fine reference book that I would snap up in an instant.

Thanks Bob.

-Scott

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James Friel
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posted February 19, 2003 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
If we're collecting editorial comment, etc., then also not to be missed are the individual commentaries that Eisner wrote for each of the first 40 stories during the short-lived Spirit Bags project of the early '70s.

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Osgood Peabody
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posted February 19, 2003 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody   Click Here to Email Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
Good morning, Bob - I trust you weathered the storm, OK - spring can't some soon enough, huh?

Just to elaborate on another poster's question - many of us are puzzled by the lack of credit given to Bob Kane's ghost, specifically Sheldon Moldoff, in the Dynamic Duo Archive. I know at one time DC was contractually obligated to credit Kane solely, but I was under the impression that this requirement had been relaxed recently, as other collections (i.e. Greatest Batman Stories, Batman in the '60s, etc.,) had given story credits to Moldoff and Chic Stone. If you can shed any light on this, it'd be much appreciated.

And while on the subject of credits, a recent solicitation for JLA archives vol. 8 gives cover credit to Mike Sekowsky/Jerry Ordway, but I believe the cover is modelled on a panel from JLA 66, and the credit should be given to Dick Dillin, not Sekowsky. Hopefully it's not too late to correct that one.

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TommyYesterday
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posted February 19, 2003 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TommyYesterday   Click Here to Email TommyYesterday        Reply w/Quote
Hi, Bob -- some questions:
1) Given that the "Dynamic Duo" archives combines stories from two different Silver Age titles, is it setting a precedent for other Silver Age archives? I'm thinking in particular of Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen -- maybe there'll be a "Superman Family" Archives reprinting 4 issues of Lois and 4 issues of Jimmy instead of individual archives for the characters?

2) A Green Arrow question: Years ago there was a DC digest featuring Green Arrow stories that were tied together with new art and story featuring Green Arrow and Black Canary by Dan Spiegle, as well as a Jim Aparo cover. Is there any chance that this entire digest will be reprinted in a larger format as an "Annual," as a kind of follow-up to the Kirby/Green Arrow annual of a couple of years ago. Memory is faulty, but I don't think most of the material in that digest was Kirby stuff, so there wouldn't be much duplication.

Thanks for your time.
Art

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JeffD
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posted February 19, 2003 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JeffD        Reply w/Quote
Re: the credits on the JLA 8 cover...I emailed Jerry Ordway and he stated he had inked a SEKOWSKY drawing.

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James Friel
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posted February 19, 2003 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TommyYesterday:
1) Given that the "Dynamic Duo" archives combines stories from two different Silver Age titles, is it setting a precedent for other Silver Age archives? I'm thinking in particular of Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen -- maybe there'll be a "Superman Family" Archives reprinting 4 issues of Lois and 4 issues of Jimmy instead of individual archives for the characters?...


Jimmy Olsen started in 1954, Lois Lane in 1958.
Archives like Dynamic Duo, which combine the runs of two titles, combine them in the order they were published chronologically. Using that plan, even if a Superman Family Archives were contemplated, there'd be four years of Jimmy Olsen to get through before Lois stories started.

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TommyYesterday
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posted February 19, 2003 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TommyYesterday   Click Here to Email TommyYesterday        Reply w/Quote
James -- Thanks for the feedback. The 3 or 4 years that separate Jimmy Olsen #1 and the Lois Showcase issues aren't a vast gulf in style and substance. My idea for a Lois & Jimmy combo Archive would differ in format from the Dynamic Duo Archive in that the two series, given the short, snappy, gimmick-laden nature of their stories, wouldn't have to intertwine or have been originally published in lock-step chronological order with each other, and I don't think it would be jarring. The stories, and the Archive, would be held together by the super-glue that is Superman and the look and style of Superman in the mid-50-'s to the early '60's. Also, on the lists I've seen of possible Archives Lois & Jimmy seem to have dropped off the radar. Maybe putting them together in an umbrella title with a familiar ring to it would interest fans of both characters. "The Superman Family, starring Superman's Girl Friend Lois Lane and Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen" could work (for me).

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Old Dude
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posted February 19, 2003 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Old Dude   Click Here to Email Old Dude        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TommyYesterday:
Years ago there was a DC digest featuring Green Arrow stories that were tied together with new art and story featuring Green Arrow and Black Canary by Dan Spiegle, as well as a Jim Aparo cover. Is there any chance that this entire digest will be reprinted in a larger format as an "Annual," as a kind of follow-up to the Kirby/Green Arrow annual of a couple of years ago. Memory is faulty, but I don't think most of the material in that digest was Kirby stuff, so there wouldn't be much duplication.

Only one Kirby story, the one with the giant arrows from another dimension, was reprinted in the digest.

Mike W. Barr wrote 7 new pafes of material to wrap around the reprints. The pretense is that Oliver & Dinah are looking through the Green Arrow scrapbook, and the stories are flashbacks.

One of my favorite comics moments is when the wacky, Silver Age-mentality Giant Arrow story ends. You turn the page, and Dinah is on the floor laughing her butt off, and Ollie is saying, "No, really, that's the way it happened."

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silveragesuperfan
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posted February 19, 2003 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silveragesuperfan   Click Here to Email silveragesuperfan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James Friel:
If we're collecting editorial comment, etc., then also not to be missed are the individual commentaries that Eisner wrote for each of the first 40 stories during the short-lived Spirit Bags project of the early '70s.

I have never read these but would love to do so. I hope some consideration is given to reproduce these introductions (with the reprinted stories where possible).

Thanks also to Mr. Nichols..I forgot to include the dailies and tabloid. Hopefully Bob G. can give us the odds on all or any of this stuff being included..?

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vze2
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posted February 19, 2003 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vze2        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Old Dude:
One of my favorite comics moments is when the wacky, Silver Age-mentality Giant Arrow story ends. You turn the page, and Dinah is on the floor laughing her butt off, and Ollie is saying, "No, really, that's the way it happened."

I love that scene too.

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dcexplosion78
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posted February 19, 2003 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dcexplosion78        Reply w/Quote
I'm sure it's too late now... but any chance the TERROR OF TRIGON PB will have reprints of the covers from Tales of The Teen Titans #60-64 too...there is at least one Bolland cover in there. (Great Bolland cover on GOTHAM KNIGHTS this week, btw. What a collection "The Brian Bolland Covers" would be!)

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posted February 19, 2003 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by silveragesuperfan:
Thanks also to Mr. Nichols..I forgot to include the dailies and tabloid. Hopefully Bob G. can give us the odds on all or any of this stuff being included..?

I could swear that, a few weeks back, Bob said they were planning on reprinting the dailies too. Who wants to volunteer to read through all the posts?

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posted February 19, 2003 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
January 8th:

"Our plan today is to include the SPIRIT dailies by the time the final volume comes out. As for the Warren and Kitchen Sink covers, the jury's out. As for Will doing a new story, that's come up but have we directly asked Will, I don't know."

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James Friel
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posted February 20, 2003 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Bob, a couple of things that I'm led to ask because of discussion now going on in other threads:

1) Is DC doing any general acquisition by scanning of material that isn't in its library which may some day be wanted for archiving, but which isn't needed immediately for a scheduled volume? Some folks seem to think you must be doing so, and I'm dubious.

2) Should the first volume of Aquaman Archives, consisting mostly of six-page backup stories, prove successful, will that make Green Arrow or Martian Manhunter look more attractive to you or to others in decision making roles as potential Archive candidates?

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datalore
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posted February 20, 2003 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for datalore        Reply w/Quote
Beat to the Green Arrow Digest answer...

...quite a few Action Comics tales in there.

I'd LOVE to see this Digest go "full-sized"...

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Michael Bise
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posted February 20, 2003 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Bise   Click Here to Email Michael Bise        Reply w/Quote
Looks like the nut bags have driven Bob away with their Legion Lost and Superboy whinings...

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Rob Staeger
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posted February 20, 2003 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Staeger   Click Here to Email Rob Staeger        Reply w/Quote
Probably Bob just has too much stuff to catch up on after being snowbound for a few days. According to Peter David's blog, both he and Bob were snowed into the Farpoint convention, in MD. Peter only returned home yesterday, and I doubt Bob made it back any sooner.

So -- congratulations on your escape, Bob!

Rob

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Kon-El of NY
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posted February 20, 2003 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kon-El of NY   Click Here to Email Kon-El of NY        Reply w/Quote
That's pretty disappointing if it's true...

This was a great forum to find out things about upcoming projects. I would hope that Bob comes back on to explain why he hasn't been on. If it's permanent, I think we at least merit an explanation...

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posted February 20, 2003 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the ?        Reply w/Quote
Well, it would be polite, but I'm not sure that he "owes" us one.

Wait and see. The East Coast is returning to normal now, and odds are he'll be back soon.

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